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Topic: 1337 analysis?
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1337phile
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posted October 31, 2001 08:08 PM
    
O, Illustrious denizens of Megatokyo: I implore thy help. I am but a lowly English major at Case Western Reserve University, but do desire a greater understanding of that which is l33t. In researching this phenomenon for a semiotics paper, I’m asking for anything anyone knows, thinks they know, or just thinks about l33t. Tell me what you think about how l33t developed, how or why it is used, or just show off your 1337 }{4x0|2 abilities. Thanks.[translation for English impaired]
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Xevo
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posted October 31, 2001 08:31 PM
|-|4\/3 4 53|\|53 0|= h|_|(v)0|2, |23|\|0-d00d. ! o|0n'+ +!|\||{ |-|3 +4|{35 i+ +|-|4+ 53|2!0|_|5|_'/.
+|-|0u6|-| ! h4\/3 +4 d!549|233. . .1337 i5 ph|_||\|.  <-- '/33 01o|3 401 l337
! o||_|nn0. . .4|\|'/ ][|2(3r5 0|_|+ +h3r3 (n)h0 +!|\||{ +|-|4+ 1337 !5 4|_!\/3 4n|) w3||?(u)'/ +00 (3|\|+5 ------------------------------------------ "We need booze. And food. And a fire. Definitely a fire."
"If you haven't noticed, we don't have any money."
"FIR3 IS FR33"
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Cronopio
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posted October 31, 2001 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by Xevo:
|-|4\/3 4 53|\|53 0|= h|_|(v)0|2, |23|\|0-d00d. ! o|0n'+ +!|\||{ |-|3 +4|{35 i+ +|-|4+ 53|2!0|_|5|_'/.
+|-|0u6|-| ! h4\/3 +4 d!549|233. . .1337 i5 ph|_||\|. <-- '/33 01o|3 401 l337
! o||_|nn0. . .4|\|'/ ][|2(3r5 0|_|+ +h3r3 (n)h0 +!|\||{ +|-|4+ 1337 !5 4|_!\/3 4n|) w3||?(u)'/ +00 (3|\|+5
Ok this is what Im talking about. This is not legible, you cant "get" the joke if it takes you 3 minutes to decipher each word and even then a lot of it is guess work.
what the hell is this??? "(n)"
"o|" why not use d or |) which you already use else where.
"'/" V? y? -------------------- I miss the comfort of being sad...
-Nirvana
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n00b
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Member # 6968
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posted October 31, 2001 09:45 PM
l33t is g00d in sm4ll d0s3s.
but 1t 1s 4 drug, and drugz 4r3 3v1l..remember that lesson well. -------------------- newbie on steriods, not brain drugs
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Lamoorn
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posted October 31, 2001 09:54 PM
From what i understand and extensive research done:Elite: THis is how it started, this was used to describe the hackers who could outsmart the CIA, they were the elite leet: Why type out elite when you could type out lite, but since that is a type of beer, lets make it leet because it's only easier and it sounds better. l33t: Sice those hackers have nothing better to do, and they want to keep the investigators on their toes, they type like this... no.. it didn't work to well, did it.. l33t for the masses!: Now come message boards, and the l33t h4x0r5 start typing in this all the god damn time, then people learn it, then the perma-newbies come in and are like "HEEEEY WHATS THAT?!?!?" and the oldbies say "it's l33t..." then the perma-noobs start speaking in l33t everywhere they go because they think it's cool, when it' sjust fucking annoying... Edit: But then again, writing in l33t on the chalkboards at school is a fun.. cuz the teachers come in and get confused, and it's just funny to watch... [ October 31, 2001: Message edited by: Lamoorn ] -------------------- Weasel:
AP: 1-2| AC: 6| MV: 15|HD 1/4| THAC0: 20| # of attacks: 1| DMG/att: 1| Morale: Steady (11-12)| EXP: 7 Nope, not something thath is considered a dealdy oponent in AD&D..
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Prophet
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posted November 01, 2001 12:09 AM
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Originally posted by n00b:
l33t is g00d in sm4ll d0s3s.
but 1t 1s 4 drug, and drugz 4r3 3v1l..remember that lesson well.
You. join them in the fire of eternal torture. *points* -------------------- Because of my knowledge I was able to convince the queen I was a mighty oracle, but no history book could have prepared me for what happened here.
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n00b
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posted November 01, 2001 01:08 AM
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Originally posted by Prophet:
You. join them in the fire of eternal torture. *points*
I used MT leet, and if that is a crime, then how about you tell Piro and Largo to go jump in the fire of eternal torture? I knew you were going to do that to our gods.. Be quiet.. umm, trying to look for the word. BAKA^3 Is that it? -------------------- newbie on steriods, not brain drugs
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Prophet
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posted November 01, 2001 08:37 AM
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Originally posted by n00b:
I used MT leet, and if that is a crime, then how about you tell Piro and Largo to go jump in the fire of eternal torture?I knew you were going to do that to our gods.. Be quiet.. umm, trying to look for the word. BAKA^3 Is that it?
I'm sorry, you seem to think that I'm moderating. I'm just banishing people who write entire sentences in 733t speak to the fire of eternal torture until they realize that it isn't funny or cool to use 733t speak all the time. Outside of the comic where it is used for humour value I've never seen Piro or Largo post entire messages in 733t(though this is irrelevant, they can whatever they want  ). Yours wasn't too bad, and I probably over-reacted...but I had a point to make. 733t_speak_sentences == bad; -------------------- Because of my knowledge I was able to convince the queen I was a mighty oracle, but no history book could have prepared me for what happened here.
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1337phile
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posted November 01, 2001 08:54 AM
yes, everyone. i agree. 1337 is a perversion, an atrocity, a... dumb... thing. why can't everyone speak the king's english like i do?
however, people Do speak 1337. generally idiots, (or people with a sense of humor,) but
1. Why do they?
2. Who uses it, (a description beyond labels of n00b5, 114m3r5, or aol users.)?
3. Where did this god forsaken dialect start?
4. and if you hate it so much, why is it so funny?
thanks.
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Prophet
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posted November 01, 2001 09:04 AM
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Originally posted by 1337phile:
yes, everyone. i agree. 1337 is a perversion, an atrocity, a... dumb... thing. why can't everyone speak the king's english like i do?
however, people Do speak 1337. generally idiots, (or people with a sense of humor,) but
1. Why do they?
2. Who uses it, (a description beyond labels of n00b5, 114m3r5, or aol users.)?
3. Where did this god forsaken dialect start?
4. and if you hate it so much, why is it so funny?
thanks.
I'll assume the flame of eternal torture did you some good 
1. I honestly don't know, aside from using "733t" and "ph34r" occassionally I use VERY LITTLE 733t speak.
2. People who are trying to be funny/cool, though they are being more annoying than anything else.
3. I beleive it was hackers trying to hide from search engines originally. Now it is mostly used by gamers and people making fun of script kiddies(could be wrong on this, it's been quite a while since I was gaming).
4. Poor question, those two things are not in any way related. It is funny because used in moderation it pokes fun at the people who use it seriously(or in the case of the guy from the comic, it's a running gag). I hate it because people keep using it to try to be funny/cool, which it isn't(unless of course you're another person who likes a 733t sentences, then it is hilarious).-------------------- Because of my knowledge I was able to convince the queen I was a mighty oracle, but no history book could have prepared me for what happened here.
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1337phile
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posted November 01, 2001 05:53 PM
thanks kirby, i agree. the origns of l33t are interesting, but not limiting. if it has evolved into something larger now, bully for it.and the inside joke part of it is Certainly relevant... as far as i can tell the "point" seems to be telling other people how much better you are than them. if others can understand what you have "said" than the two of you can make fun of others together. if not, you are Obviously the 1337357. users of l33t can then be divided into 1. those who make fun of it, using it for humor/sarcasm/irony whatever, and 2. those who Believe in it, and use it, presumeably because they lack and desire some sort of superiority, so they try to be as inscrutable as possible to prove how great they are. but i'm just guessing here... is this blatently wrong, or am i missing something?
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black_mage
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posted November 01, 2001 06:05 PM
0|<, 1375 937 0|\|3 7|-|||\|9 57r419|-|7.7|-||5 \/\/|-|013 l33t 7|-|||\|9 15 9377||\|g r3411`/ 01d. 137 |7 90. -------------------- "i can code my way out of anything"
"Even those giant menacing lobsters?"
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-Its mediocrity. Squared!
-Come on people! YOU'RE ALLOWED TO POST IN THE BLOODY FORUMS!
-ahhh... the best way to succeed in live is to eliminate the competition
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Prophet
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posted November 01, 2001 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by Kirby:
Those people have chosen to use l33t.
It's their life, so why can't you just leave them be?
So if they think l33t is cool, why do you have to bash them?
By your reasoning we should not put down in any way anything that we don't like, we should all live in a happy little world where no one disagrees with anyone. I think not. black_mage:*points at fire of eternal torture* look, 1337phile is speaking in normal english now and people are listening to what he has to say. -------------------- Because of my knowledge I was able to convince the queen I was a mighty oracle, but no history book could have prepared me for what happened here.
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Prophet
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posted November 01, 2001 08:28 PM
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Originally posted by Delum:
1337 gets annoying i dont even bother trying to read a whole message in it. *points at fire of eternal torture* That Looks fun, Can i join In?
Yes, only because if I didn't you'd post a sentence in 733t and force me to point again... weirdo.... -------------------- Because of my knowledge I was able to convince the queen I was a mighty oracle, but no history book could have prepared me for what happened here.
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Final Furyk
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posted November 01, 2001 08:34 PM
Since it hasn't been mentioned l337 edicit at the Megatokyo Fan Network.Oh and...... *kicks thread in the b4115* -------------------- Final Furyk- One guy who hopes "Domics" becomes a reality. Girls in Furyk harem: evilynn, Rapunzel, Mazekeeper "Confound you polisher"
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Delum
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posted November 01, 2001 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by Prophet:
Yes, only because if I didn't you'd post a sentence in 733t and force me to point again...weirdo....
WOOO!!!!! *Jumps In* OH MY GOD AHHHHH AHHHHHH THE MAYO IS HOT AHHHHHHH THE LETUCE IS ROTTEN!! AHHHHH
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1337phile
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posted November 01, 2001 11:42 PM
|o3|2|n4|o5 313373 15 |_|53o| 45 4 /|/36471|/3 4773/|/710|\| 63771|\|6 o|3\/!{3.== perhaps l33t is used as a negative attention getting device. by those who have run out of useful things to say. *re-reads post* 5#1+.
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posted October 31, 2001 08:26 PM
